The former senator Sherrod Brown, of Ohio, joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss the tumult that Donald Trump’s tariffs have inflicted on the global economy, and why progressives should not merely oppose the President’s trade policy but offer a clear alternative. “I’ve heard economists talk about these tariffs upending the global order on trade. Well, to a lot of workers, anything’s better than the global order on trade. It’s our policy problem as a country, and it’s our political problem for Democrats,” Brown says. They also talk about his latest project, the Dignity of Work Institute, a think tank dedicated to advocacy for the working class.

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