David Spade is still trying to wrap his head around the current Saturday Night Live castmember’s casual relationship with creator Lorne Michaels.

The comedian-actor, who was a castmember on the NBC sketch comedy show from 1990 to 1996, recently told Dana Carvey on their Fly on the Wall podcast that he was shocked by how the show’s new kids speak to Michaels, as the dynamic was much different during his time on the show.

Spade recalled repertory player Sarah Sherman telling him she “texted [Lorne Michaels] and said, ‘Why did my sketch get cut?’” But a bewildered Spade thought, “I’m like, you text Lorne? That floors me.”

Carvey, a castmember on SNL from 1986 to 1993, was also seemingly surprised and asked, “As a cast member? During the show?”

The Grown Ups actor proceeded to detail a behind-the-scenes moment with Michaels and Sherman during rehearsals for the Dec. 7 episode.

“Lorne was giving notes when I did Hunter Biden,” he recalled. “We’re all sitting there and Lorne’s got a microphone and he’s like, ‘Cold open.’ He starts reading and then he goes, ‘Sarah’ — because she was [playing] Matt Gaetz — ‘maybe you gotta face … you’re not in the light enough. Can you face more towards the middle?’ She goes, ‘I’ll try.’ I’m like, ‘How about yes, sir?’”

Spade and Carvey’s reactions signal that maybe the dynamic on SNL in the ’90s wasn’t as lax as it is for the current generation. Michaels created the sketch comedy program in 1975 and has executive produced the show since, bringing it to its current 50th season.

However, SNL star Bowen Yang shared last year on Hot Ones that while he was initially intimidated by Michaels after a “disaster” of a screen test, he later realized how encouraging and kind the TV legend is.

“Aidy Bryant was the one who told me, ‘You can be, like, friends with him now,’” Yang recounted. “I think Lorne at one point was hanging out with Aidy and was kind of chuckling about it like, ‘I think Bowen sees me as a mountain to climb, and I don’t want him to think that anymore.’ And that kind of gave me the encouragement to just go up to him and be like, ‘Oh, we can relate to each other on a human-to-human level,’ which I never thought would happen with him.”